Carson,
I'm not sure if this is the one you were referring to but here is the
article I submitted awhile back. One more note to add, when
reassembling the case, use a very thin layer of sealant on the case
so
as not to alter the pinion depth.
Have fun and good luck
Scott Swanberg
-----------------
Well, I just finished replacing my 2nd gear syncro and the
clutch in
my
'87 Milano Platinum. Of course, I learned a few lessons, here
is a
recap.
I used my GTV6/Milano manual, Collin Verrilli's article, "Alfa
Romeo
Owner's Bible," by Pat Braden, and various digest postings as my
references. All went fairly smoothly and as always, I want to
thank all
who answered my questions, before and during the procedure.
I've unhooked the driveshaft and lowered the front of the
transaxle
now
four times. I can do this portion of the job on cruise control,
no
problems. When it comes to the exhaust system I don't completely
remove
everything. This is because I have not been able to readily get
the
flanges on the front section to clear between the sump and the
frame.
I
just separate the rear section from the middle section and the front
section from the manifolds, unhook all hangers and let the front and
middle sections pivot down. This gives me enough room to do
everything.
Once the transaxle is nose down, I disconnect the whole slave
cylinder
bracket and let it hang. I've tried using a "C" clamp previously
to
hold the piston in place only to have it be knocked off and eject the
piston and all the fluid. I didn't want to mess with bleeding
everything again so I made use of my father-in-laws machine shop and
made up a clamp that is basically a cap held in place with set screws
into the cylinders boot groove.
The Milano gear selector shaft has a fitting pressed on to the
end and
held on with a split pin. Pound long enough on the split pin
with a
correctly sized punch, and it will come out. (I was later
cautioned
that to much pounding can bend the shaft. Support it on the
opposite
side.) Pulling the fitting off the selector shaft is another
story. I
fabricated a puller that removes it easily. When reinstalling
the
fitting, heat it up with a propane torch and it will slide right on.
When removing the clutch I leave the DeDion cross member on
and in the
lowered position, passing the clutch between the cross member and the
car's underside. When removing the transmission front cover I
returned
the cross member to it's upright position and lower the transaxle under
it.
Taking the gear cluster apart was no problem. I used a
36mm, 2
1/4 inch
deep socket that I got for $6.00 from the local El cheapo tool store
that worked fine.
>From what I can tell from my manual, the Milano 1st. gear
syncro is
different than that on the GTV6. The Milano has a an
additional
strap
and a coil spring. On the part of the first gear that the syncro
sleeve
engages and that the syncro snap ring clamps on, I had a part broken
off. This was the a small portion of the piece that the snap
ring
attaches to. Turns out that even though this syncro engagement
part of
the first gear easily is removed from the first gear, you have to
purchase the entire first gear to get a new one. Me being cheap,
I
scoffed at the $160 for a new first gear and I brazed the broken part
back on. The resulting fix seemed strong.
While installing the new clutch, at first it would not slide
all the
way
on the mainshaft. I've experienced this on other cars and after
inspecting it discovered that the pressure plate was not centered in
the
clutch. I disassembled the clutch, centered the plate by eye,
and
reassembled it. After this it slid right on.
The new clutch really grabs. I'm occasionally spinning
the wheels
on
the sanded streets getting used to it. I imagine that after a
few
hundred miles it won't be so grabby. The second gear syncro works
great, easily up and down shifting without any grinding. The
ring I
removed showed wear on the inside from the small segment and on the
outside from the engagement part of the 2nd gear. The teeth on
the
sleeve were rounded off a lot.
All I replaced was the 2nd gear syncro ring and 1st - 2nd
syncro
sleeve. After seeing what a difference this made on my 2nd gear
I wish
I would have replaced all the rings. I recommend doing this.
Scott Swanberg, St. Paul, MN
'87 Milano
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:12:42 -0400
From: chris hall <christian147@juno.com>
Subject: Re: GTV-6 trans bearings
Robert,
I assume you refer to the bearings in the central housing. If
so the
bearing changed on all the trans's. Old stile bearings can be
used in
new stile cases and vice a versa if you also change the steel retaining
plate. Old stile plate has a recess to compensate for the thicker
bearing. I have done this on my Milano and countless customers
cars.
Chris
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 23:29:46 EDT
From: Besic17@aol.com
Subject: Re: alfa-digest V7 #1104
Mike wrote:
"Anyone know how to check the automatic trans fluid
level.........?"
An easy to check the level,assuming the system is still working,is
to flip
the trans level test switch located top/left of the "Alfa Check
Control"
on
the dash.The little light should be lit.If not, the level is low or
the
test system doesn't work.
To be sure,you should raise the car,preferably on a hoist and
with it hot
and running remove the 6mm (10mm head)bolt located next to the trans
oil
pan in that cylinder-looking aluminum housing with a wire hopefully
attached to
the top of it.With the car as level as possible,you should see
fluid
trickling out.If not,the level is low.Filling the trans is even
more
fun........Remove the wire & rubber boot from the top of the
housing.With
a
22mm or 7/8th's wrench,carefully remove level sender unit from housing
and
add fluid from the top of the housing.An easy(?) way to add fluid is
to
remove the R/R wheel and with a funnel & 3 foot length of hose
keeping the
funnel higher than the inlet.When fluid leaks out the level
hole,you,refull.
Of course you,re working right next to the hot exhaust the whole
time........Also plan on making a mess........
Hope this helps.....
Mike Besic
<< From: schuga@mindspring.com
Subject: Milano Shifting
Hi all!
I have some questions regarding the shifting of a '87
Milano.
For some
reason, the shifting of my Milano is very laborious and
hard.
It takes
some effort to find the gears and does not shift smoothly like
my
father's GTV-6. Once the gear is located, I have no problem
engaging
the gear. Seems like the shifting mechanism is binding
somewhere. >>
It is most likely the piece at the transmission end of the
long rod
that runs
from the shift lever in the interior. This piece is a tube with
a lever on
it. It fits over a section of the long rod. There are two
plastic sleeves
that separate the two parts and originally some grease. The short
section
with the lever is supposed to rotate on the long rod, but when dirt
replaces
the grease ... it stops turning freely. The short section
is held onto the
long rod by a pin that runs throughout cross wise .... not easy to
push out.
The two plastic piece were about 25 cents each a couple of years ago
from
Alfa.
I put a grease nipple on it when I put it back together.
The spot
of
grease
once a year keeps it working nicely.
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 05:13:45 PDT
From: "john mckaig" <mckaig750@hotmail.com>
Subject: Milano seat fabric & shifters
The Recaro seat fabric is 'Monza'. I had ordered seat
bottoms
from Automat
on Long Island a few years ago. If you want their # call 1-800
info, they
should have it.
To all late V6 & Milano owners with the 'monkey link' shifter
mechanism.....If you shifter has more than a little slop REPLACE all
the
bushings, joints, & levers under the car. The parts cost
$50-$70. Use a
good quality waterproof grease (do not use anti-seize) and enjoy
goodness
every day! The shifter becomes nice and precise. I can't
tell you enough
how good this is, and since you shift all the time you'll REALLY love
it.
I can't for the life of me figure what the road testers of the time
complained
about.
Now no one can complain about bad shifters!!!!!!!
RIGHT.!?
Have a FANTASTIC day.
CJ
Here are some links you should check out:
Cheers,
Mikko
Alfa 75 TS -90 134000km
http://reality.sgi.com/sikand_mti/milano.html -rattling
shifter
http://www.clanger9.demon.co.uk/alfa/
-repairing 75 ts
http://elektron.et.tudelft.nl/~jebe/home.htm
-project
75 3.0 v6
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 21:14:37 EST
From: Aibrucia@aol.com
Subject: Milano Shifter
Below is a shortcut to a great article on the Milano
shifter.
<A
HREF="http://reality.sgi.com/sikand_mti/milano.html">Click
here: The
Alfa
75 / Milano Resource</A>
I assume you can undo the bolt at the base of the shifter and
then take
it
apart. The article says to make a puller to remove the old
bushing.
Mine
was so siezed, I found I had to unbolt the shifter and it housing as
one.
To
do this, remove the knob and undo 3 bolts from below. Then, the
whole
shifter and its housing will drop into your hand. Then , I simply
drilled
out the old bushing, fitted a new one and reassemled.
E mail me if you need more info.
Tony Brucia
Long Island, NY
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:14:05 -0500 (EST)
From: adoherty@sas.upenn.edu (Adam Doherty)
Subject: Milano Auto PS
As a Milano autobox owner I just wanna clear up a point; you
don't need
to switch PS pumps when removing the self leveling system. All one
needs
to do, if removing (or having removed) the self leveling, is join
the
feed and return lines in the rear that used to feed the leveling
resevoir
with a length of fuel infection hose. Thats what I did, and things
are
dandy. Also, checking the fluid level is as easy as it gets: just
flick
the switch on the "ARC" and look for a light. If it lights
up-->good,
if
it doesn't, then yoiu are low on fluid. I've changed mine a couple
of
times and its not all that bad, but it can be messy.
Regards,
Adam
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 20:29:14 -0400
From: "Michael Conrey" <michael_conrey@canammanac.com>
Zamani,
I was having some problems with the shifting on my automatic
Milano
and was
this close to replacing the transmission. I had already tried
changing the
fluid with only marginal improvement. Paul at DiFatta Bros. told
me before
I spring for a new transmission, try dropping the pan on the
transmission
and remove the screen filter and clean it. It was easy to
do.
There are
about 10 bolts holding the screen in place. It didn't look that
dirty, but
I sprayed it with brake cleaner and put it back in. Now my
transmission
shifts like brand new again. Give it a try and let me know if
it helps.
Michael Conrey
Myersville, MD
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:19:25 -0400
From: Keith Walker <100662.3423@compuserve.com>
Subject: 75/Milano automatic
Zamani
>> I think the PO had his mechanic re-route the PS pump
for
the rear shocks (a loop). But it seems to shift to 2nd a little too
quickly. <<
Ours also liked to change up early. It may just need the
kickdown
cable adjusting (and it amost certainly needs that cable lubricating!).
Keith
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 09:34:17 -0500 From: rcess@notes.cc.sunysb.edu Subject: Milano automatic transmission question
Gavin,
With respect to your '88 Milano with automatic transmission, the reason the gear selector is difficult to move is because the cable to the transmission is sticking in its sheath. You need to remove the cable/sheath assembly, clean and lubricate, and reinstall. The situation will rapidly get worse, and DO NOT use brute force to move the gear selector. If you do, you will kink the sheath and the entire unit will need to be replaced.
Bob Cess
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 12:11:51 -0400
From: "Jeff Greenfield" <alfaguy@usa.net>
Subject: RE: whining gtv6 driveline
>My gtv6 has developed a medium intensity (but still pretty
annoying
after a while) whine coming from somewhere in the driveline (driveshaft
or transaxle) when I accelerate. It's mostly audible in speeds
between
55 and 75mph, and tapers off after 80mph or so. As soon as I
lift off
my foot from the accelerator, it stops completely. When I press
the
accelerator, even lightly, it starts again.<
I once had a Milano in my shop with a problem as you describe.
Turned
out to
be that the race for the pinion bearing in the transaxle was turning
in the
aluminum housing. We only found it after going through everything else
in
the driveline, and when that turned up nothing, we ripped the transaxle
open and found the problem.
I'm not saying that this is your problem, and I personally
have not
heard that this is common in these cars, but it is a possibility.
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 08:47:38 -0500
From: Andrew Garcia <aggarcia@swbell.net>
Subject: whining gtv6 driveline
My guess would be a
worn
pinion shim. You will most likely have to
dissemble the transaxle to find the problem.
ANDREWG
Houston, Tx
#63 ITS GTV6
Subject: LSD transaxle and Mil/GTV6
halfshats
From: Andrew Garcia
<aggarcia@swbell.net>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 10:36:59 -0600
The only way to tell which axle ratio
and/or if there
is a LSD is to
pull the side cover on the transaxle case that secures the diff.
Stamped
on the ring gear will be a number like 10/41. This identified as 4.10
axle ratio. The LSD can be identified by the six or eight bolts holding
the end plate to the diff unit ( to get at the clutch discs).
There is a difference in axle shaft between
a GTV6
and a Milano. if
you look at the "spacer" between the brake disc and the axle shaft,
they
are different for each car. The GTV6 used regular bolts and the Milano
uses allen bolts. The Milano spacers are shorter, hence a longer axle
shaft. I was told this was done to give the Milano when weighted down
more suspension travel. To use a Milano transaxle use change the
spacers
to the GTV6 style and you are in business. What all of these questions
on putting a Plat.
LSD into a GTV6 are you having the LSD unit rebuilt or leaving
it stock.
Most LSD unit I have seen are worn out because the lock is so low that
the friction discs slip to much quickly wearing them away. Ereminas
Imports will rebuilt your LSD with 50% lock for about $200 depending
if
everything else is ok. After two years of competition use my LSd is
still working like new. Good Luck.
ANDREWG
Houston, Tx
#63 ITS
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 17:24:22 -0700
From: Vangelis Kokkevis <vangelisk@home.com>
Subject: transaxle bearings
The transmission of my 86 gtv6 has been on my mechanic's bench
for a
few
weeks now. It badly needed new bearings for both the input and
the
pinion shafts (these are the bearings at the center plate). We
finally
got the bearings but to our surprise, upon disassembly we found that
both shafts had two bearings, stacked on top of each other instead
of a
single one that the parts manual suggests. On the pinion shaft,
the two
bearings add up to the thickess of the single replacement one so that's
not a big issue. However, the two bearings on the input shaft
are about
1mm thicker than the replacement bearing. The new one would fit
perfectly if only the cover plate that keeps the bearings in place
didn't have a circular groove right where the outer bearing surface
comes in contact with it.
Has anybody experienced that before? Any suggestions on
where
to go
from here? Also, the bad bearings caused the pinion shaft to
move back
and forth and eventually ground the first spacer very thin. How
would
we go about finding what that spacer thickness should be?
Thanks a lot,
Vangelis
> Vangelis,
>
> I have fixed several gearboxes with this problem
successfuly.
On each
> occasion I was able to measure the shim at the inner diameter,
just
make
> sure your not measuring any 'flashing' or a sharp edge. I
have
heard
that
> the shims were improperly hardened or the shafts were torqued
improperly
> from new.
> If the shim was really pounded, check the reverse
gears
VERY carefully as
> they can take a set at an angle and make lots of noise and/or pop
out of
> gear. I've had to replace the 5/R cluster, r grear, and the
idler to fix
> the problem.
>
> Good luck.
>
> John
>
> Vangelis,
>
> The shim on the transaxle is a common problem on both the Milano
and the
> GTV-6. Hopefully, there is a good edge which your mechanic
can measure and
> find the original size.
>
> I have not experienced the shim problem but Paul Glynn, in
Massachusetts,
> gave a seminar on Alfa rear-ends. If the shim is destroyed,
which happens
> sometimes, then you must "guess" and adjust. I believe it is
truly a
> trial-and-error process and experience with these rearends will
pay
off. If
> your mechanic has not tried to setup and adjust the rear end
before
you may
> want to consider finding another transaxle.
>
> I don't have any experience with your double bearing problem.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Steven Silverstein
Subject:
Re: Transaxle
Date:
Fri, 04 Aug 2000 10:31:43 -0700
From:
Vangelis Kokkevis <vangelisk@home.com>
To:
Carson Damm <dammwood@home.com>
Well, my car is back from the shop. The whine in the
transaxle
turned
out to be a combination of a worn out spacer in the pinion shaft and
worn out bearings for both pinion and lay shafts (these two problems
seemed to be related and one of them caused the other). For some
strange reason, the replacement bearings listed in the parts manual
are
not the same as what we found on my transaxle. For each shaft,
we
replaced two bearings that were stacked on top of each other with a
single one. On the lay shaft, the replacement bearing was a
little
thinner than the two bearings originally in the transaxle so we had
to
insert a spacer between the bearing and the backing plate that keeps
it
in place. It all seems to work fine for now and the transaxle
is
finally quiet....
Cheers,
Vangelis
Hey, Maddog,
I'm also using a Turbo gearbox/diff assembly on my 3.0 V6 and I'm
also happy with it, just as Thomas said.
The only difference between the three diffs with LSD is the final
gearing, all the gear ratios are identical. You can check yourself
in
the CarDisc CD if you have it.
So virtually all of them are interchangeable.
For the 3.0 V6, where the gearing is very tall, you can either
use
the Turbo unit, which is a satisfactory compromise between
acceleration rate and top speed( I'm getting about 138) or the
TwinSpark unit, which will make it accelerate like a dragster (it
is
very short in gearing), but you get top speed of like 125mph at
the
rev limiter. And as far as I know, the rev limiter on the 3.0 cuts
in
at something like 5800 rpm?!
I have driven a 3.0 with a TS diff on it, in midrange and up to
its
top speed it is very much faster than a 4-cylinder M3 and around
the
same with a 265 bhp Sierra Cossie! (I raced both these cars with
that
3.0). As for longevity, the original clutch of the 3.0 was retained
when the gearbox was swapped and after about 30.000 miles of hard
driving, the gearbox didn't show any signs of wear.
Only make sure that the speedo and the speedo sending unit are
from
the same car or you'll get funny readings on the speedo (it's nice
to
see 160 mph top speed in your car, only you won't believe that at
e.g. 120 a 1.4 Opel Corsa is following you!!)
Cheers,
Danny
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 17:21:05 -0500
From: "Mark Denovich" <mark@denovich.com>
Subject: Vibrating Gearshifter solved!
Well the correct answer appears to be none-of-the-above for my
bucking
Milano gearshifter.
I had nextday aired some new transmission mounts, and a
dedionbushing
for delivery Friday. It didn't show. I was upset as I intended to drive
the Alfa visiting relatives for Xmas, and was nervous about the
vibration.
I decided to have another look underneath and noticed that the
brake
line was sagging near the gear shift linkage. The metal clip holding
it up had rusted away. So I pop rivetted a new mount into
place,
and double checked the guibos and CVs... everything seemed
good.
Hopefully good enough to get me home and back.
When I later went out to do some last minute shopping I was
surprised
to
notice no vibration in the gear shifter. Apparently the
brakeline was
pushing against the gearshift lever enough in 2nd, and 4th gears to
transmit some vibration from the gearbox back through the
shifter.
I'd have never guessed that.
Other than being out $40 for next day shipping that wasn't
next day...
It's happy holidays for me and my Alfa.
--Mark
--1988 Milano Verde
--1976 Spider Veloce
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 07:27:01 -0800
From: "Mike Nakamura" <mike_nakamura@email.msn.com>
Subject: ZF Trans
I cut & saved this post...
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 13:07:43 EDT
From: MAXLTV@aol.com
Subject: Re: Authorized ZF Reman Centers
Courtesy of ZF, U.S.A., the following are authorized stocking
warehouses
for
ZF automatics in the U.S.
Accurate Transmissions
935 Campus Drive
Mundelein IL 60060
800-428-7726
All Automatic Transmission
5530 NE 86ht St.
Portland OR 97230
800-461-5396
Eriksson Industries
146B Elm Street
Old Saybrook, CT 06475
800-388-4418
Ed's Transmissions Exchange
10226 Highway 90 North
Maryville, WA 98270
800-356-3303
Peter Schmid Transmission
1166 Independence Ave
Mountain View CA 94043
800-372-8726
Don
Above posted by Don
Mike Nakamura (mike_nakamura@email.msn.com)
Fall City WA USA
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 12:08:32 +-1300
From: Bruce Harrison <bruceh@gdc.govt.nz>
Subject: RE: changing rear cv boots on Alfetta
Jun
I'm no mechanic, but I replaced the boots on my Alfetta
a few
months
ago. Its not hard to do but takes a little time. The main points
are:
- - jack up the rear of the car as high as you can, then
support with
axle stands and chock the front wheels so the car can't fall off the
stands.
- - the half-shafts have to be removed from the car, to
do this
you
need to remove the 6 allen key bolts at each end. You MUST have
a good quality in-hex key to remove these. I used one that goes
on
my socket set.
- - to stop the half shafts turning as you loosen the bolts,
have
someone apply the parking brake, and loosen the bolts at the wheel
end first. I loosen two bolts at a time, then rotate the shaft
for
the next two....
- - once you have the shafts out, you need to remove one of
the cv
joints from the shaft. The joint is held on by a circlip located
under the tin cover over the big (outer) end of the joint.
- - I used a flat ended punch to tap around the edges of the
tin cover
until it came off. The circlip is hidden under the black grease.
Remove with circlip pliers and then tap the joint off the shaft.
.
- - you can then replace both boots on the shaft.
- - be very careful not to get any dirt on the grease or in
the joint.
- - then reverse the above to put it all back together.
- - not sure if there is a special tool for the metal ties
that go
around the ends of the boots. I just used pliers but made sure
I got the straps tight.
Let me know if you need any more detail.
Bruce Harrison
Gisborne, New Zealand
1985 Alfa 90
1980 Alfa 6
1978 Sud Ti
1977 Alfetta
1968 Spider
Another gentleman mentioned that the CV boot on his GTV6
axle
has
split. Please do NOT use a quick boot type product; they are quick
for a
reason. They're quick to go on; unfortunately they are also quick to
sling
grease all over the underside of the car and split open.The part number
for
the correct CV boot that you need from Beck Arney worldparts (they
supply a lot of your mom and pop and chain type auto parts stores) is #
7560....Boot
replacement on a transaxle Alfa is EASY; if your'e charged more than
$100 for this job your'e getting ripped off........
For shops and other Alfa owners
on the digest; I have another way to
replace the boots on a CV axle. There's a company in Gatineau, Quebec
Canada that sells a CV boot replacement tool that allows you to replace
the
boot without even taking the joint apart......
For a GTV6, this tool works this way: You unbolt the broken boot
side
from the car; leave the other side still on the car. You use their
universal
CV boot (Thicker and much more durable than OEM; and you can trim it
to
whatever diameter you need. You cut off the broken boot and old
clamps;inspect the now open joint for any damage/ pack grease in the
joint
races and slide what looks like a traffic cone over the joint. You
lubricate
the outside of the cone with Pledge furniture polish (Seriously!) and
just SLIDE the boot onto the shaft outside inward; turn it inside out,
fill it
with grease and clamp it.That's all there is to the job with this tool.
The company that sells the tool
is called DISTRIBUTION ASTORIA
2000 Inc.and they can be reached at 1-888-413-3656 or emailed at
:distr.lalicorne@qc.aira.com
Patrice Poulin is their VP and was demonstrating this product in local
DC
Area shops 2 weeks ago (the week I got laid off). I'm usually skeptical
about
"wonder tools and quick fixes" but this tool works. As a demo, he redid
the
outer CV boot on a "96 Toyota Camry (well known for being a PITA and
taking 2 1/2 labor hours just to get the axle off the car) in 20
minutes.
No financial attachment, blah
blah blah; just a tool that
works......
Terry Akins
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 13:19:24 -0400
From: "John Hertzman" <johnhertzman@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: final-drive gear-ratios (was: model years)
Just as I was sending out my skepticism about the relative
importance
of model
years in the Alfa scheme of things, the incoming digest brought Brian
Shorey's
response to Joe Elliott, citing a big model-year difference between
1981 and
1982 GTV-6s, the 4.10 final drive ('81), and 3.41 ('82.) Oops.
D'A & T give one set of mechanical specifications for all
GTV-6s,
with the 4.1
final drive, while citing a bunch of cosmetic and amenity modifications
introduced in February 1983 on both the 2.0 four and the 2.5 V6 -
tinted
glass, integrated windscreen aerial, new front seats, gray side
moldings,
improved sound-conditioning. As far as I can tell from a limited number
of
foreign road tests, the 4.1 final drive remained standard on the GTV6
everywhere but in the USA, where CAFÉ standards might have
caused
ARDONA to go
to the 3.41, but I don't know this for sure; if anyone in the Real
World
outside knows about out-of-US ratio changes that testimony would be
useful.
In looking for another transaxle Alfa with a 3.41 (actually
more like
3.42)
final drive I found no fewer than nine ratios in use in production
cars:
4.78/1 (9/43)
4.55/1 (9/41)
4.30/1 (10/43)
4.20/1 (10/42)
4.10/1 (10/41)
3.91/1 (11/43)
3.82/1 (11/42)
3.54/1 (11/39)
3.42/1 (12/41)
I don't know whether all of the Alfetta ring-and-pinion
gearsets
interchange
with the those of the later cars, but the 3.41 and 3.54 gears were
both
used in 1984 on the 90 (on the 2.4 TurboDiesel and the 2.5 V6
respectively),
so (given Alfa's long lead times) both would have been effectively
in the
pipeline to the corporate parts-bin when ARDONA needed an
economy-stretcher.
Cheers
John H.
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 19:43:03 +0200
From: "M. Carta" <m.carta@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: Re: Switching V6 gearbox for TS unit
All Alfa shown below have the same gear ratio, and differ only
in final
drive:
Final drive
1.6
9/41 0,220
1.8
10/43
0,233
1.8 TB 11/43 0,256
2.0 TS 10/41 0,244
3.0 V6 11/39 0,282
Speed in km/h at 5600 RPM (example)
1.6 172
1.8 182
1.8 TB 200
2.0 TS 191
3.0 V6 221
Alfa
From: nizam@aol.com
Subject: Re: 75 Turbo Gear ratios
Thanks to Alfa75Turbo's post, I was able to skim through
the
manuals.
The differential ratios for the 1988 model year run are as
follows:
Alfa 75 1.6 4.56
Alfa 75 1.8 and 1.8ie 4.30
Alfa 75 1.8 Turbo 3.91
Alfa 75 2.0 TSpark 4.10
Alfa 75 2.5V6 4.10
Alfa 75 3.0V6 3.54
This info was on pages 47 (51) and 48 (52) of the
Alfa_75basis.pdf file (numbers in brackets refer to the PDF
reader page numbers).
This information is useful for those of us who race our cars
and
need to perhaps have separate differential ratios for different
track/circuits.
One more important note is that Alfa Romeo used exactly
the
same gear sets, from 1st to 5th, and also reverse, for all the
models listed above.
Two other models that have different gear sets AND
differential
ratios are the 75 Turbo Evoluzione and the Alfa SZ (ES30).
If
anyone has those manuals, I'll pore over it for you and post the
ratios.
Thanks!
Nizam
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 17:14:45 +0200
From: "M. Carta" <m.carta@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: 75 Turbo Gear ratios
I 2,875
II 1,720
II 1,226
IV 0,946
V 0,780
Final 3,910
Alfa
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 22:51:19 -0700
From: "Gary Krumian" <gkrumian@yahoo.com>
Subject: Auto Milano ratios
Peter,
Here's the information you need.
1st 2.48
2nd 1.48
3rd 1
Final drive 3.154
Mon, 08 Oct 2001 00:22:27
Here are the basics for a non-LSD to LSD conversion.
This is
under the
assumption that the transmission part of the transaxle is ok, that
the
bearings on the LSD were checked as being ok, and that the
complete
transaxle is either on the workbench or in the car without
fluid, right
caliper/axle shaft disconnected.
1. Take the bolts
off holding
the diff cover to the transaxle. Pull cover
off case.
2. Pull the pumpkin out
of casing. You may need to rock and/or hit the
pumpkin to loosen it from the driver side stub axle.
3. Loosen bolts holding
ring gear to pumpkin. Remove ring gear from
pumpkin. This too may take some force.
4. Install old ring gear
on LSD unit. You must reuse/buy new LSD ring gear bolts. The non-LSD
bolts
are too long and will not properly attach the
ring gear to the pumpkin. I hand tighten all of the bolts and then
take
one bolt out at a time add red loctite and torque to the specified
value.
5. Install LSD pumpkin into
transaxle. Spin until it seats flush with
casing. I add a little sealant to the cover and reattach diff cover
to transaxle.
6. reattach caliper, axle
shaft, and add fluid. I have used Redline 75/90NS with great success.
Some may worry that
you will
get diff noise, but after having done this
procedure on a dozen GTV6 and Milano transaxles with
any issues, I have yet to see any issues on a converted LSD transaxle.
Good Luck.
ANDREWG
Houston, Tx
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