Milano 2.5 to 3L
conversion
I'm sure there is an article out there that give the long and the
short of doing a 2.5 to 3l engine change in a Milano. Well, this one is
going to be the long of it.
My story starts about a year ago, with many of the faux pas that I
myself have told others to avoid, so much for that free advice... If
you like milano's this will be a good article for you otherwise I hope
you enjoy the cheap entertainment. I like my milano, does everything I
want of it, hasn't let me down and for an everyday four door sedan is a
blast to drive. It's a Plat, 2.5l, leather interior, ABS, the works. If
you enjoy driving Milano's you lust after the 3L cars, but the premium
they get on the market makes them a little out of reach for the cheap
people like me that just want something to flog everyday. My problem
started when I accidentally found a 3l car on ebay for cheap on the
correct side of the boarder. Being the insatiable romantic that I am I
put a real low bid on it. Unfortunately for my wife I was the only one
to bid on it... The actual transaction went quite smoothly, it was the
first time I bought a car on Ebay and the most expensive thing I've
bought on ebay. The seller was very friendly about getting my money,
looked after shipping it to me (which was cheaper than going to get it)
by rail. The things you learn, there were a bunch of pics on the
auction but the few things that would have made me go eeek were
conveniently missing. Of the few really prized things on a 3L Milano,
the front seats are right up there. On my Ebay car the driver's one was
bent pretty good. My plan once winning the Ebay car had been to make
one good car out of two OK cars. I had wanted to use the Ebay cars
chassis to get the better serial number but that didn't work out. The
head gaskets on the Plat went Kaplouie at a bad time too so my 2.5 to
3L swap was at hand. I had it easy, I had my donor car side by side in
the garage with it's new host. The whole operation was done on a
weekend with the odd bit of help from friendly partners in crime.
Getting the bits out in such a way that it would all go back together
was a comedy of errors. Exhaust and driveshaft have to come out. The
exhaust on the two cars though serving the same function were
about as far from identical as one could get, plus I already had a
Stebro center and rear that I had put flanges on to eliminate clamps. I
was going to have to use the OEM cat piece with my flanges on it and
hope it lined up with original cast headers on the 3L. I also ended up
swapping the bell housing off the 2.5 on to the 3L, that went really
well, the engine didn't even tip over while sitting on the garage
floor. I wish I had changed the rear crank seal at the time, lesson
learned. The seller of the Ebay car had said he got the car for super
cheap from a friend but it came with broken valves so this engine was
supposed to have gone through a recent top overhaul, the water pump
shaft had zero play, it had a new spring type belt tensioner on it too.
Of the two engines I was only able to salvage one set of engine mounts
though. When removing the 3L from the Ebay car I kept all the
accessories with it, wiring harness, the two ecu's, distributor,
starter everything. Some worked out well that way like the engine
wiring harness. This is because the ignition ecu in the passenger foot
well has different plugs on it than the 2.5 cars. I swapped AFM's too,
I must have forgot in the flurry of activity but the 3.0 in the plat
didn't run right in the beginning but putting the 3.0 AFM back with
it's original 3.0 engine really helped, I also cleaned out the wiper
track under the black plastic cover with spray contact cleaner.
Physically getting the engines out and in was a snap, I didn't even
have to take the hoods off either car. I just used ratchet straps to
the engine hoist, that worked really well too. Here's a hint, if you
are thinking about doing anything with the starter do it now as being
able to get the header off easily makes this job much more enjoyable, I
took advantage of this and put a heat reflective blanket around my
starter. I also cleaned up my steering rack and made sure the bolts
were tight. Once the engine was in and the driveshaft was all
reinstalled it was time to get the exhaust all hooked up. What a pain,
the outlets of the L and R exhaust manifolds was a little narrower than
the two ball connectors of the OEM Alfa cat pipe. No sweat says I, I'll
just bent then together the half inch or so that's needed. Man, this
turned out to be harder than I was expecting, like trying to bent a
tuning fork. I got it done, so well in fact that I had gone too far.
Bending it back out was way harder than getting them together, so much
so that I ended up shattering one of the ball connections. There was a
moment of silence after that happened. What to do now, my cat with the
flanges was broken and the other cat would cost some now scarce moola
to get hooked up to the Stebro center. I decided to try and weld the
ball connection back together and quickly sell off some bits from my
now 3L milano parts car and get CSC headers from Andy at Performatek.
This worked and it didn't, yes the ball connection physically fit but
it wasn't a closed system anymore, I was quite worried at the time of
melting my one and only engine mount so I was easy with the gas for a
couple of months until the headers came. So after all this all you
really need to put a 3l milano engine in a 2.5 car is a 3L engine (duh)
complete with the engine wiring harness, ignition and injection ecu's,
the AFM or a BMW one and exhaust manifolds though if I were to do it
again you could probably get away with 2.5 manifold as there is only
about a 1mm difference in primary diameter. You also need a 3L flywheel
but the engine should come with it. Everything else from your 2.5 will
work, at least is has for me and I've done 5-6 autocrosses on the new
setup this summer.
Carson Damm
Oct 6, 2004